More background on design choices

Apr 21, 2015,08:03 AM
 

Nico,

Thanks for your review.

You wrote:

"What I like a lot is the idea behind the Watch, born from the friendship between the PuristS and Chopard, the manual winding movement, the fact this is a flyback and hacking seconds, and a Chronometer, the design of the hands, the black dial.

I would have much preferred arabic numbers, and just a 6 / 12 configuration, with a smaller case to better adapt the movement to the case and dial, deeper and more sensual anglages, and an all new movement, rather than removing the automatic parts of the Cal 03. 03L. Of course, the price to pay would not be the same, though..."


You are correct that personal choice had an influence but both Chopard and PuristS were also constrained by other considerations.

Cost was a factor but more importantly, was "value" because with a big budget, anyone can design anything.

Horological Value is a different metric. At the time of design, global price of gold was very high as a result of economic uncertainty and warfare. If we had made the dial from solid gold disc as originally planned, it would have been another $2000 even without grand feu enamel.....

The choice of steel case was not only for cost reasons but also following the idea that historic steel case chronographs are more desirable than gold ones. This is particularly because of the current rule at L.U.C to propose all their L.U.C movements only in precious metal cases.

Another rule broken is that the launch of any new L.U.C movement was always in a gold case. With the L.U.C 1963 PuristS chronograph, a exception from the rule was made.

The fifty L.U.C 03.07-L movements in the PuristS' edition have an additional suffix 'P' because they are different from the ones used in gold cases. It is 'sans quantième' and had to be specially homologated with Geneva Seal with different crown setting mechanism and dial side finishing.



L.U.C 03.07-L DATE

L.U.C 03.07-L DATE


L.U.C 03.07-L NO DATE

L.U.C 03.07-L NO DATE


The choice of Roman numerals is linked with the original watch dials when the family bought Chopard in 1963. As this is a tribute to that year, the L.U.C 1963 watch family must have roman numerals for time display and Arabic numbers for chronograph function. That, led to the choice of 42mm case size for dial space and proportion, as you surmised.


The case shape and lugs are set by the L.U.C 1963 watch family motif having curved case bands with vertical brushed finish and short lugs to cater for smaller wrists.


Regards,

MTF


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Chopard L.U.C 1963 Chronograph PuristS Edition: Pictures and Hands On Review

 
 By: amanico : April 21st, 2015-00:13
I had to wait till last Monday to see this Chopard L.U.C 1963 Chrono PuristS Edition in the real life. Melvyn already told you the story behind this Chronograph so I will make it short. PuristS and Chopard are long time friends, and once upon a tile, the ...  

Thanks for the write up and photos Nicolas!

 
 By: watchthatman : April 21st, 2015-07:14
I think it's a beautiful chrono, and I'm not too crazy about current production chromosome. I don't have a problem with the Roman numerals, nor with the lugs. I do love the different colors for time and chrono on here. It reminds me of a stopwatch I had a... 

As often, it is mandatory to judge a watch in the flesh.

 
 By: amanico : April 21st, 2015-10:33
Before expressing any judgement on it. I was happy to do so and wish you have the same opportunity. Best, my friend, and thanks for your input. Nicolas

More background on design choices

 
 By: MTF : April 21st, 2015-08:03
Nico, Thanks for your review. You wrote: "What I like a lot is the idea behind the Watch, born from the friendship between the PuristS and Chopard, the manual winding movement, the fact this is a flyback and hacking seconds, and a Chronometer, the design ...  

Agreed that historical chronos are more desirable than gold ones.

 
 By: amanico : April 21st, 2015-10:36
And I am happy to see that this chrono has some good elements. Now the thing which most disturbs me is the origin of this chrono, I mean the automatic origins. Costs are one thing, yes. But I already had this issue with the JLC TT Geophysic. ;) Best, Nico... 

That the movement is an evolution from a time-tested predicessor is, for me

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : April 21st, 2015-16:46
a big, big PLUS, my friend! Thanks very much for sharing these thoughts, Nicolas. Best, CaliforniaJed Evolution is a beautiful thing, no?! ;-) ...  

JLC did the same thing with the Alarm movement for their manual winding Memo.

 
 By: amanico : April 21st, 2015-22:39
They removed the rotor and the auto parts of the Cal 918 et voilà, the Cal 914 was born! Best, Jed. Nicolas

Perhaps that description is a bit unfair in the case of this movement,

 
 By: CaliforniaJed : April 22nd, 2015-06:42
no, my friend? Your point is taken, though, and appreciated. Best, CaliforniaJed

Thanks Nicolas for the review on the Chopard PuristS Edition

 
 By: ED209 : April 21st, 2015-08:13
Nice pics. I still remember session at IGOTT2 in Vegas when we were all discussing the various elements and fine details about this chronograph. Thanks for this review. Regards, ED-209

I echo some of your sentiments

 
 By: cazalea : April 21st, 2015-12:01
" I would have much preferred arabic numbers, and just a 6 / 12 configuration, with a smaller case to better adapt the movement to the case and dial " and for me, a greater contrast between the hands and the dial would have improved my ability (old eyes) ...  

LOL I'm sure it was the 'evil' twin!

 
 By: ED209 : April 21st, 2015-20:59
:) I believe that pic was from a Perpetual GTG at the Rainbow several years ago? Regards, ED-209

hahaha LOL!

 
 By: ED209 : April 22nd, 2015-07:46
:) Regards, ED-209

Thanks a lot for your review.

 
 By: foversta : April 21st, 2015-15:05
When I read the conclusion. " I would have much preferred arabic numbers, and just a 6 / 12 configuration, with a smaller case to better adapt the movement to the case and dial, deeper and more sensual anglages, and an all new movement, rather than removi... 

With a 6 / 12 config, I rather see an hommage to the Classics rather than a 1000 Miglia.

 
 By: amanico : April 21st, 2015-22:50
By Classics, I mean Classic Chronos such as...Pateks, Vacherons... With all arabic numbers, why not, with a smaller case, it would widen the hommage to Longines, Minerva, well, not bad references. It is not easy to make a chrono for PuristS, indeed. But a...  

I love so many details on this watch

 
 By: MichaelC : April 30th, 2015-08:30
The case, the handwind movement without date, the pushers, the hands, the subdials layout, the smaller small seconds - everything I enjoy. But I just don't agree with the dial. Vintage style with Roman numerals and red on black. Too sporty of a color comb...